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Friday, February 10

Irrelevent Christianity

In an effort to reach the masses, Christians lose touch...with reality. The web site Teenage Jesus is a prime example of how far off the boat North American Christianity has jumped.

I appreciate the sentiment of trying to reach your children with the Gospel. HOWEVER, what ever happened to getting involved in your kids’ lives? The Gospel is not only relevant if you dress it up...

The web site explains that the Bible doesn’t say anything about Jesus’ teen years. So is the answer to fill it in with non-sense? If we take the admonition from 2 Tim 3.16-17 correctly we would not denigrate the Bible to irrelevancy. Instead, we would seek to apply it to life...This is an attempt. A failed one, though.

Who really cares about Jesus’ teenage years? Satan has used areas where the Bible is silent to open up the door to speculation that leads people away from the solid food of the Word.

I am not angry...I am disappointed. Let’s not speculate. Let’s seek to rightly understand what God has already given us. Let’s not waste time with endless genealogies and tales that only hurt the hearers.

[HT: Purgatorio ]

Comments on "Irrelevent Christianity"

 

Blogger Jason Ramage said ... (Fri Feb 10, 04:55:00 PM) : 

Wow... Jesus looks so handsomely American, not to mention the blonde hair (wonder where he goes to get it cut like that?) and the tattoo. I always thought he was Jewish, but I guess the Bible is wrong about that and this guy is right.

These questions he suggests about Jesus' life... what church is he attending that leaves stuff like this open to interpretation?

Did Jesus ever get punished for
misbehaving?

Did he have a girlfriend? What kind of girl would he have wanted for a
girlfriend?

How did he learn the languages he would later use to talk to people from many nations and walks of life?

At least this artwork isn't being sanctioned by a pastor, church, or denomination. I'm sure a few Episcopal churches are already placing bids to have him do a mural. :)

 

Anonymous Anonymous said ... (Fri Feb 10, 05:04:00 PM) : 

I thought it was vary chico. The tat was not whitey... Jesus is my homie!

Anyways... I don't see how that is bad. We each see Jesus as somemwhat like ourselves, why couldn't he have a tattoo? Or a shaved head (bleached hair)?

 

Blogger iconoclasm said ... (Fri Feb 10, 05:10:00 PM) : 

haha

I would say the bible is not silent about Jesus' early and teen years:

Luke 2:52 And Jesus increased in wisdom and in stature and in favor with God and man.

At some point he must have read and memorized the scriptures that he used to rebuke the devil and that he used in his ministry. He also displays some knowledge of the history of judaism.

Luke 2:52 is basically years of hardcore studying. You're not going to get a bunch of kids that don't want to hear about God to pump up your youth ministry and make a name for yourself it that's what you have to offer. Even though that is what they actually need.

Did they have silicone back then?

 

Blogger iconoclasm said ... (Fri Feb 10, 05:17:00 PM) : 

Why couldn't he have had a tatoo? This is just a guess but probably because the Bible forbid it. haha

 

Blogger Matthew Wireman said ... (Fri Feb 10, 05:34:00 PM) : 

I would say that it stems from a desire to be relevent, but in so doing the artist has become irrelevant and irreverent. We respect history and we need to appreciate the fact that Jesus came as a Jew from the seed of Abraham from the stump of Jesse to fulfill all that was prophesied.

I am not trying to pick on people for trying to be relevant. I am excited when people attempt to contextualize the message of the Gospel. HOWEVER, there is a point where the message must not be interpreted to our own fancies. I agree with iconoclasm, Christ was growing in the knowledge of the Scriptures experientially. Why didn't the writers write more? Are we missing something essential to our faith? I believe they didn't write more b/c all that needed to be said was said regaridng Christ's teenage years.

It is fun to think about it, but it veers near the edge of heresy...Christ was extremely relevant to tax-collectors and the irreligious without taking on their actions. I think so many churches try to dress up Christianity in fine garb...and when they try to be relevant they end up getting it all wrong - like parachute pants in the 90's!

 

Blogger vandorsten said ... (Fri Feb 10, 07:06:00 PM) : 

Ha! Parachute pants. I love me some Hammer pants too...

Is there anything inherently wrong with speculating about Jesus' teenage years? Probably not. Let's face it - Jesus is fascinating. However, the danger I see repeated in things like this is that attempts to become relevant often end up stepping into relativity... or heresy.

It's sorta novel to picture a teenage Jesus and dress him up just like us. But I say we should stick to what we know. The question we are really asking is "what is God like?" Our answers need not be speculative.

 

Blogger Jason Ramage said ... (Fri Feb 10, 08:03:00 PM) : 

Tattoos were forbidden by the Mosaic law, which is part of the Bible. However, I wouldn't say the Bible as a whole, as it is fulfilled by Christ, forbids tattoos.

That's a good point about Luke 2:52. Besides that one, we also know that Christ lived without sin, never married, and we can be almost certain he followed in his earthly father's footsteps as a carpenter. As a faithful Jew, he naturally memorized plenty of Scripture because that's what people did back then. They didn't have gospelcom.net or a copy of the Bible on their Palm Pilots to look up Scripture on the fly ;-)

 

Blogger G. F. McDowell said ... (Fri Feb 10, 11:47:00 PM) : 

purgatorio link broken...

 

Blogger Matthew Wireman said ... (Sat Feb 11, 07:34:00 AM) : 

Links are fixed...sorry about that. Thanks, reapolitiklr!

As for the questions re: tattoos...it's a great one. It has to do with how one understands the relationship between the Old and the New Testaments. Some people make a direct link and say that the Mosaic Law should be obeyed to a "t" (these are called theonomists). Others says the entire Old Testament is abolished and we don't have to follow one jot or tittle anymore (the folks that will not read the Old Testament in their services or have instruments because it is not prescribed in the New Testament).

What we have to do is navigate through both of these. Like you said, Jason, Jesus fulfilled the Law...but in what way. That is what we need to figure out for life and practice as New Testament believers.

I love the dialogue, perhaps we can continue...
Like van.diesel said, we don't have to speculate when it comes to who God is and what he requires of us. He has given his Word and written it down so we can see for ourselves. Although there is nothing inherently wrong with speculating about Jesus' life, we border on the line of unbelief in the sufficiency of God's Word when we do.

 

Blogger iconoclasm said ... (Sat Feb 11, 04:28:00 PM) : 

Jason- that's a great point about carpentry! He was learning to join two pieces of wood together. He might have been a sort of carpenter's helper, doing the less complicated or tedious tasks such as cutting 20 pieces of wood to a certain size.

A little defensive about the tatoos aren't we? Does someone have a heart tatoo reading "mom"? I just wanted to clear up that I'm not a Judaiser. Notice I said "forbid" and not "forbids". I however follow much of the Old Testament law to the letter and refuse to do otherwise. For instance, not touching feces or carcasses, hand washing, making idols, not eating buzzards, not cross dressing, etc.

 

Blogger Jason Ramage said ... (Sun Feb 12, 03:23:00 PM) : 

Well, I'm sure the irony of Jesus being a carpenter and dying on a wooden cross is not lost on anybody. Do you think that when the soldiers would nailing it together that he interrupted them and said, "Now, you need to put another nail in here or it's not going to hold up."

 

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