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Friday, August 18

The Third Person in the Trinity: Scriptural Data [2]

Lk 3.22 - the three distinct persons of the Trinity represented (voice, dove, Son)

1 Cor 6.19 - a temple of the Holy Spirit...would this be idolatry of the Holy Spirit if he were not God. In other words, Paul would be encouraging us to be temples to an idol!

Heb 3.7 - The Holy Spirit says, “Today if you hear his voice...” This is citing the Old Testament reference to Psa 95.9-11. In these verses YHWH makes it explicit that they sinned against him. This is YHWH speaking and the preacher of Hebrews says it is the Holy Spirit. (see also Heb 4.6-7)

Heb 10.15 And the Holy Spirit also bears witness to us; for after saying,
16         “This is the covenant that I will make with them
                after those days, declares the Lord:
                I will put my laws on their hearts,
                and write them on their minds,”
17   then he adds,
         “I will remember their sins and their lawless deeds no more.”

Is this a mere slip of words? Doubtful. This is cited from Jer 31. The Lord speaks of a New Covenant that he will ratify and make effective by giving new hearts. This is done by God. The preacher of Hebrews makes it clear that the Holy Spirit is God in v.17 when he attributes remembering their sins and lawless deeds no more to the Holy Spirit’s activity. Additionally, the Holy Spirit is called “he.” I will discuss this aspect of spirit being equivalent to personhood in the next post.

Comments on "The Third Person in the Trinity: Scriptural Data [2]"


Blogger Jason said ... (Sun Aug 20, 10:01:00 PM) : 

Right here's my personal favorite:

"In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. ... and the Spirit of God was moving over the face of the waters. And God said, "Let there be light."

It breaks down a little because Christ obviously wasn't created, but I think it's cool how the Gospel of John starts with "In the beginning..." and goes on to describe Christ as the light of the world (although, since light isn't really an object, perhaps you could argue that light wasn't necessarily "created" on the first day).

Plus, the Spirit of God moving over the waters before Creation is a precursor of Baptism, which initiates the New Creation.


Anonymous Anonymous said ... (Tue Apr 14, 04:57:00 AM) : 

God the Father is the Holy Spirit and his Spirit he shares is called the Holy Spirit

When eleven disciples were given the command by Jesus, “go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, " (Mathew 28:19) did the disciples understand this to be three separate Deities as the Trinity theory like you to believe? In Acts 2, was it not these same eleven disciples who went to Jerusalem? They just received the Holy Spirit. And Peter speaking by the Holy Spirit explained it to the thousands of Jews who had just gathered in Jerusalem. He quoted the book of Joel:
"'In the last days, God says, I will pour out my Spirit on all people. Your sons and daughters will prophesy, your young men will see visions, your old men will dream dreams. 18 Even on my servants, both men and women, I will pour out my Spirit in those days, and they will prophesy. 19 I will show wonders in the heaven above and signs on the earth below, blood and fire and billows of smoke. 20 The sun will be turned to darkness and the moon to blood before the coming of the great and glorious day of the Lord. 21 And everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.” This is how the eleven disciple understood the Holy Spirit as being poured out from the Father and not a separate God the Holy Spirit. In the same speech Peter also states at Acts 2:33 “he has received from the Father the promised Holy Spirit and has poured out what you now see and hear.” These statements are direct and there are no interpretations that have to be made. From reading these statements God is a witness and the eleven disciples are a witness. And the three thousand people who were baptized that day believed in this fact. (Act 2:40) Also I like to draw your attention to fact the Peter also calls God the Father at Acts 2:33 which backs up his belief of saying to Jesus “You are Christ the Son of the living God.” (Matt 16:14-16) Jesus called God his Father. ( John 8:54-55. John 17:3) Paul did likewise. (1 Cor 8:4-6, Gal 1:1-5) In fact every book that the apostle Paul has written in his introductions proclaims God as the Father. You have to understand that God is the Father before you can understand the Holy Spirit. At Acts 5:3-4 Peter said, "Ananias, how is it that Satan has so filled your heart that you have lied to the Holy Spirit and have kept for yourself some of the money you received for the land? 4 Didn't it belong to you before it was sold? And after it was sold, wasn't the money at your disposal? What made you think of doing such a thing? You have not lied to men but to God." If Jesus believed that God is the Father, and Paul believed that God is the Father and finally Peter believed that God is the Father at Act 2:33, so if Peter here said that “you have lied to the Holy Spirit” and then said “You have not lied to men but to God.” I like to proclaim that the Father is the Holy Spirit and his spirit he poured out is called the Holy Spirit. This is not a third Deity.


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